I agree with you that these are the times predicted by the Christ (in Matthew, especially), but I am having just a bit of trouble with 'Rapture' as no-where that I have found in New or Old Testement is there anything that says anything about the 'Rapture'that Tim Lehaye and his ministry, and others like his, try to teach. However, I may have missed it, and so I ask you to please direct me to ALL the places in the Bible that specifically state Abba would take out the pilot of an aircraft while leaving a planeload of passengers. I am not trying to be snide, honest. I know the Christ states that "...two will be in the field, one will be taken and one left behind..." Is this where the 'Rapture" comes from? Because I've been studying Scripture (many translations) for a long-long time, and I don't find Daniel, Isaiah, or even Jeremiah prophesying anything near the 'Rapture', only that when End Times hit, things are going to get very ugly for the denyers, and that those who have died in the faith of God's everlasting love, who had been waiting in Heaven wearing white linen, will be brought fully into the resurrection.
10/16/2005 1:29 PM
Response to anonymous 10/16/2005 1:29pm
You're right, the word "Rapture" is not in the bible. The old meaning is "to snatch away", "to take out". The following are verses that refer to what we call the Rapture. 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18 (King James Version) For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words. 1 Corinthians 15:51-53 (King James Version) Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep (die), but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.There is a difference between the Rapture and the Second Coming, at the Rapture Christ doesn't actually set foot on the earth, we meet Him in the air and are taken to heaven for seven years. The spirits of those who have already died are already in Heaven, but they will get their bodies back at the Rapture, only now they will be incorruptible bodies. Paul said he's showing us a mystery, it was a revelation Paul and Jesus' disciples had that had not been revealed to the Prophets of the old testament. At the Second Coming we come back with Christ, He fights and wins the battle of Armageddon, and establishes His kingdom in Jerusalem. The man of sin Christians call the "Antichrist" will not be revealed till after the Rapture.He will be a powerful figure during the seven year Tribulation period. 2 Thessalonians 2:6-8 (King James Version) And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. let: hinder (Saints who now hinder will hinder until they are caught up to be with the Lord) And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:(the Second Coming) The verses in Luke 17:34-37 where one is taken, the other left, don't refer to the Rapture, they refer to those people (or nations) taken to die at Armageddon, verse 37 states they are taken to where the eagles are gathered (to eat the flesh of the dead). As for planes falling from the sky, they might, they probably will, who knows, but this would only be a small token of the devastation and destruction predicted for the seven year Tribulation period that follows the Rapture.
10/19/2005 11:53 AM
This is a link to a site where you can look up scripture references in many different versions of the bible: http://www.biblegateway.com/